Question
Thanks Again Dr Rozeboom
I know it may seem that I ask   the same thing over again, that may be so. As you can imagine I am left with trying to put my life back together again. As it was I had no insurance to help me through the last 3 years.
I have been and will continue doing the figure 8 exersise but was cautioned against any chiropractic due to the osteophytes. I am very much interested in Sacro Occipital Technic . The MRI did not look at that level to see if there was a misalignment. So is a low CSF pressure a possibility re the daily scintellations... I also found some comfort in traction and Ostiopathic Manipulation, thiugh not so with Accu Puncture.
With Sincere Gratitude. LB
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Followup To

Question -
I have sopken with you DR Rozeboon on this but before having my MRI. I will include all past text.

Dr Daniel Vincent Victoria Anesthesiologist. Pain interventionist.

Re Lloyd Belcourt   Blunt Trauma Head and neck...

Findings of MRI   

Technique

Routine sagittal T1 and T2 FSE and axial T2 from C2 through C7

FINDINGS
Vertabral body alignment is satisfactory. The C2-3 level is unremarkable. At C3-4 there is moderate disc space narrowing and there are small end plate marginal osteophytes protruding into the spinal canal causing indentation of the Thecal sac but no compression or deviation of the cord. Neural Foramina not narrowed at this level. At C4-5 , there is severe disc space narrowing with moderate narrowing of the right neural foramen due to uncovertable osteophytes. Left neural foramen only slightly narrowed . There is also again osteophyte formation from end plates protruding into the spinal canal causing slight compression of the cord. Signal intensity remains normal. At C5-6 there is severe disc space narrowing of the right neural foramen and moderate narrowing of the left neural foramen. The cord is not compressed but there is effacement of the thecal sac circumfrentially. At C6-7 there is a moderate narrowing of the neural foramina bilaterally, again degenerative and due predominantly to uncovertebral osteoarthritis..


Prior Discussion

Followup To Question -  This is a great service. Thank You!I suffered from Migraines from 1986 to 2000 after suffering a blunt trauma to the eye ball having been hit by a steel bead of a 1/2 inch diameter cable end that recoiled , pigtailed and hit my glass lens of my glasses breaking the lens before punching my eye. Onset was following a UVitis. In the year of 2000 I left my marriage of 27 years. The migraines subsided. In 2003 I was attacked by a cracked out Tow truck Driver who first pinched my legs with his tow truck apron and I managed to squeeze out to sit on the hood of my vehicle. The driver came around his truck and climbed up on the deck . He picked up the solid steel bar that goes over the axle and is attached to a heavy chain and hit me over the head repeatedly while I sat prone. I lost consciousness and was admitted overnight. My headaches reemerged though now developing in the neck and referring to the forehead. Fluoroscopy shows bone spurs and I have now in 2006 had an MRI which I now await the results. I am losing the strength in my arms and experience daily headaches with neck involvement. I have Vertigo and lancinating paroxysms. As I hold my arms to type this my arms sing in pain , mainly my right arm. I had known a visual effect associated with the onset of migraine that I called salt and pepper. I have developed in the last 8 months what I call a "Marquis Effect" This is a visual disturbance that I noticed first while eliminating wastes. I would see lights in the peripheral areas that chased the next like the Marquis of a theater. I came to know recently that the ringing in my ears would change with the elimination process as well. To some degree I see this as natural . My ear ringing is fluctuating and severe ,like turbine motors. What concerns me now is the increasing frequency of these visual lights in the periphery.They occur regularly 2 or 3 times per day with out cause. It has been suggested that this may be the result of changing spinal fluid pressures. What do you think. Answer - Lloyd: Thanks for writing! This is an unusual situation. Laying aside the steel cable in your eye incident, if we just look at the tow truck driver assualt, you have very likely had some of the bones in your neck and head displaced. When bones are displaced, they will usually get in the way of nerves who are trying to do what nerves are designed to do. Nerves have an built in movement and electrical flow. This cannot happen when the bones get in the way. This nerve interference would account for the pain in the arms and lights in the visual field. In particular, the joint at the base of your brain is very likely bent. This keeps the brain pump from working. And the brain juice does not sweep back and forth, in and out as it should. This causes a major neurological failure. You need to see a good craniopath. Craniopaths come in different brands, mostly chiropractors but some osteopaths and some cranio sacral therapists. The all work differently but have the same goal. Go to www.sorsi.com and www.icak.com and see if you can find someone near you. Call them and ask them if they are a craniopath. If not, call someone else. Go to the website for the Upledger Institute for the cranio sacral therapist. Or search for Chiropractic Craniopathy or Sacro Occipital Technic. That is spelled Technic not Technique. The elimination of waste involves a change in the pressure in and on the covering of the spinal cord and brain. And this change in pressure will change the symptoms as you describe. I am assuming you have had all of the usual neurological workups and have tried various drugs. Is this true? Does this answer your question? Dr. Rozeboom" and was asked on 06/28/2006

I have a few Questions
#1 What do I have to look forward to with Osteophytes rubbing on my Thecal sac. Will it get worse and the pain is bad now, how bad will it get. ( I stopped going to Kareoke as turning my head at the table brought on the worst episodes about 4 hours later. Does this make scence..
#2
Will this be the cause of my flashing lights.(Scintellations?

#3
I am told that end plate Osteophytes and Uncovertable Osteophytes, at least one is caused by Trauma. Is that correct and which one if not both? How does one know if it is post traumatic.

#4
My Vertigo is worse lately as is my ear ringing as is the Scintellations which I call a Marquis effect.Also sever lancinating pains to the ear canal.Are thes related to C3 -4
#5
These oeteophytes are growing toward my spinal cord and are already touching the cord at 4-5 and are pressing on the Thecal Sac at 3-4 and have caused an efacement of the thecal sac at 5 -6 . When should I stop turning my head or start wearing a collar...What kind of activity should i avoid. Can I go to a chiropractor any longer , can I work any longer ( not in my experience personally . The more I move the more it hurts.)
Can these be removed safetly. This seems to be the result of several blows to the head. Should  I continue to pursue this legally.
Forever in your debt... LB



Answer -
L B:

Thanks for writing!

To answer your last question first. I would pursue the legal angle if I were you.

How long have you been going to a chiropractor? And who is it? Chiropractic could still be helpful if it is done correctly. Popping your neck is not a good idea, from my viewpoint.

As to which is traumatic. I do not know, this could only be determined by studying the xrays and examining you.

The question about surgery should be sent to a surgeon, I am not a surgeon. I have seen surgery work and not work, it depends on the individual.

The pains in your ears and the changes in your eyes are undoubtely related to the condition of your neck.

Without proper care, I can only see this getting worse.

I believe I recomended a Posture Pump to you. Ask a chiropractor about it or go to www.scrip.com or Google it.


There is a home exercise you can do that will help. And it is this.
Standing or laying on your back, keep your face straight forward. Do not tilt the chin down or up. If you are lying on your back, move the face toward the ceiling is such a way that if it touched the ceiling, your face would be flat on the ceiling. If you are standing, move it straight forward in such a way that your forehead and chin would touch the wall in front of you at the same time. It has to go straight forward.
Holding that position, move your chin in a figure eight pattern. Imagine the wall is a piece of paper. You have a pencil sticking straight out from your chin. Use the tip of the pencil to write a "8" laying on its side. When done correctly, the neck will then make a crunching noise at the base of the skull. This is good. It will help your neck. It might not take the crunching sound out right away, but it will ensure that no damage is done and in fact will correct the problem if one persists in using it.
Does this answer you question?
If not, go to www.sorsi.com, www.icak.com and www.soto-usa.com and look for a good chiropractor near you. They can go over the exercise with you. It if from Dr. DeJarnette's writing.
Dr. Rozeboom  

Answer
LB:

I understand completely!!

The medical people will use any excuse to prevent one from going to a chiropractor. They have a preconceived notion of chiropractic, they think it consists of a lot of popping and shoving and sweating. Some chiropractors do that. But SOT chiros normally do not.

If your survived osteopathic manipulation, you can certainly survive chiropractic.

Low CSF pressure can cause just about any problem known to mankind. I am sure it is involved in the scintellations.

Dr. Rozeboom

When all else fails, try chiropractic!

Dr. Rozeboom